This is an IHeart podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

Welcome to If You Knew Better with Amber Grimes,

a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and IHart Radio.

Well, there's been a few times I have crossed the line.

I will say.

One, I will say that I haven't talked about.

The internet literally exploded.

And it was Cardi B who called and just said, like, now you cross the line.

Today's guest is Jason Lee, a media personality, entrepreneur, and founder who has built one of the most talked about platforms in culture, Hollywood Unlocked.

Jason opens up about becoming more intentional, how he moves, what he says, and what he truly stands on, from creating viral moments without a plan to understanding strategic chaos and building a real business behind it.

This is a reflection on growth in real time.

We talk about accountability, discipline, sobriety, and the people who've challenged him to level up.

Plus, what it really means to invest in yourself, your platform, and your vision for the long term.

And as Jason steps into his new venture with

BET, he's in a different season, more focused, more grounded, and clear on what actually

matters now. I'm so happy to have you here. I'm happy to be here. I was so taken aback when you

messaged me and said that you would come do the show. Of course. I saw a pop up on social media.

Then I went down the whole trope of what this was. And I was like, yo, I love pulling up for people who look like me and who are out here doing their thing. And so, you know, you've been doing your thing for a while in music. So I'm like, oh, I should try to take my job? Let me pull up. Never. I learned so much from you.

I love your interview.

So you were somebody who inspires me pull luck. Never. I learned so much from you.

I love your interview.

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