"If You Have Time To Make Fancy Meals, You're Not Training Hard Enough": The Rules Of How To Be Excellent As A Distance Runner From 2xOlympic Medalist Morgan Pearson

THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST

Dominic Schlueter

Running, Sports

4.8 • 686 Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Professional triathlete, two-time Olympic Silver Medalist, and recent HOKA signee, Morgan Pearson, joins the show today to discuss all things training and running.

Morgan was raised in New Vernon, New Jersey, and grew up as a competitive swimmer, ocean lifeguard and runner. Morgan went on to compete in cross country and track and field while at the University of Colorado, where he was a five-time indoor All-American.

He has PRs at Colorado that include 7:51.93 in the indoor 3k; 13:43.37 in the indoor 5k; 1:52.89 in the outdoor 800m; 3:42.31 in the outdoor 1,500m; 4:13.90 in the indoor mile; and 13:36.22 in the outdoor 5k.

Morgan got his start in elite triathlon when he began training at a few development camps with USA Triathlon. He debuted as an elite in 2018, and then won a bronze medal at the 2021 World Triathlon Championships in Yokohama.

Morgan really became an all-time triathlete star when he anchored the silver-medal-winning U.S. Mixed Relay team in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. He won another silver as a member of the Mixed Relay team in Paris in the 2024 Olympic games.

Most recently, Morgan kicked off 2025 with a scorching 1:01.01 half marathon in Houston, setting a new 13.1 mile PR by seven seconds. He continued to show off his versatility and strength as a triathlete when during a two-day span at the beginning of February, he ran a 4:11 indoor mile, followed by a 40-mile gravel bike race the next day–finishing in one hour and forty minutes.

In today’s conversation, Morgan takes me through his famous twitter “rules,” signing with HOKA, how he views his future in sport, and so much more.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Sometimes you have to risk it.
0:01.8	Like if you're trying to win, if you're trying to be the best in the world, you have to risk something.
0:07.0	Like you can't just get there by the safe training.
0:10.0	You know, I just haven't seen it.
0:12.3	That was Morgan Pearson today on the Running Effect podcast.
0:15.4	I'm your host, Dominic Schleader.
0:16.7	I'm thrilled.
0:17.4	You've clicked on today's episode.
0:19.5	Morgan is one of the best triathletes in the world.
0:21.9	He's also a remarkable runner himself.
0:24.1	He recently actually at the Houston Half Marathon,
0:27.6	ran a 101-01 half marathon, which is absolutely remarkable.
0:32.1	So, so impressive.
0:33.1	That was a PR for him by seven seconds.
0:35.6	Also recently this year, he signed a deal with Hoka.
0:38.6	We talk about that in today's conversation. And he's a two-time Olympic silver medalist.
0:43.1	He won his first silver medal at the 2020 Olympics where he anchored the U.S. Mix Relay team.
0:47.9	And then this past year in the Paris Olympics, he won another silver medal as a member of
0:52.9	the Mix Relay team as well. Morgan is a stud.
0:55.7	He's so impressive in how he excels both in triathlon and in the sport of running at a variety
1:01.0	of distances from the half marathon to cross country to you ran an indoor mile last weekend. So
1:06.6	Morgan's a stud. Really enjoyed this conversation. He works harder than just about anyone.
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