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'If You Can Keep It': Trump, Hate Speech, And Free Speech

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🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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A Hitler-praising group chat. A government official with a self-proclaimed “Nazi-streak.” A swastika flag in a sitting U.S. representative’s office.

Those are a few of the racist, antisemitic forms of speech and expression tied to notable Republicans in recent weeks. Vice President JD Vance downplayed outrage over some of these incidents as “pearl clutching.”

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump signed a memo designating groups like “Antifa” and Black Lives Matter as terrorist organizations. It’s part of the administration’s larger effort to crack down on what it calls a widespread left-wing conspiracy to carry out acts of political violence.

In this installment of “If You Can Keep It,” our weekly series on the state of our democracy, we talk about the Trump administration and the fine lines between hate speech, violence, and political dissent.

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0:00.0

Support for NPR comes from NPR member stations and Eric and Wendy Schmidt through the Schmidt Family Foundation,

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working toward a healthy, resilient, secure world for all. On the web at theshmit.org.

0:17.9

A Hitler praising group chat, a government official with a self-proclaimed Nazi streak,

0:27.4

a swastika flag in a sitting representative's office, a covered-up tattoo of a Nazi symbol.

0:32.7

Those are just a few of the racist, anti-Semitic forms of speech and expression notable political figures have been tied to in recent weeks.

0:41.1

Vice President J.D. Vance has downplayed outrage over some of these incidents from his party as pearl clutching.

0:47.0

The reality is that kids do stupid things, especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes.

0:54.1

Like, that's what kids do. And I really don't want

0:57.0

us to grow up in a country where a kid telling a stupid joke, telling a very offensive stupid joke,

1:03.1

is caused to ruin their lives. Later on social media, the vice president suggested anger should

1:08.8

instead be directed at violent text messages that Jay Jones,

1:13.0

whose Virginia's Democratic nominee for Attorney General, himself sent in 2022.

1:18.1

Meanwhile, President Trump has signed a memo designating Antifa and Black Lives Matter as terrorist organizations.

1:25.3

It's part of the administration's larger effort to crack down on what it calls a widespread

1:29.3

left-wing conspiracy to carry out acts of political violence.

1:33.8

Today on If You Can Keep at our weekly series on the State of Our Democracy, we're talking

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about the line between hate speech, violence, and political dissent in the eyes of the Trump

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administration.

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How does the government define and handle entities it labels domestic terrorists?

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What, if anything, could the government do to curb hate speech and political violence?

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I'm Jen White.

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And I'm Todd's Willing.

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