'If You Can Keep It': The US, Iran, And War Crimes
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🗓️ 6 April 2026
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Targeting electricity-generating stations, schools, and water-purifying plants is illegal under international law. Pretty much any civilian infrastructure is supposed to be off limits.
But what does it actually mean to label military action a war crime in today’s conflicts? We sit down with a panel of experts to talk about it.
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| 0:00.0 | If you can keep it, our weekly series on the state of our democracy, |
| 0:11.2 | continues today with questions about the Trump administration's airstrikes in Iran. |
| 0:15.7 | Specifically, whether the U.S. could be breaking international humanitarian law, |
| 0:19.9 | the rules that govern how wars are fought. |
| 0:22.0 | Those laws of war exist to protect civilians and civilian infrastructure, but they only work |
| 0:27.9 | if someone enforces them. Yet, Iranian state media says 32 medical and health care centers |
| 0:34.0 | and 763 schools have been destroyed by American and Israeli attacks, |
| 0:39.5 | though those numbers haven't been independently verified, we want to stress. We do know that the |
| 0:45.5 | United States blew up Iran's largest bridge. That was on Thursday, a day after the president |
| 0:51.3 | threatened to bomb the country, quote, back to the Stone Ages, if it |
| 0:55.4 | deal to end the war wasn't reached. And on Sunday, the president posted on Truth Social, quote, |
| 1:01.0 | Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. |
| 1:07.8 | Open the F word straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just |
| 1:11.8 | watch. If the president follows through and orders these kinds of attacks, he says, starting |
| 1:16.9 | Tuesday, would they constitute war crimes? And if they did, what would accountability look like? |
| 1:23.2 | I'm Jen White. And I'm Todd's Willick. You're listening to the 1A podcast. We'll get to these |
| 1:27.2 | questions and more after a quick break. Stay with us. |
| 1:34.9 | Welcome back to the 1A podcast. We're talking about war crimes and whether the U.S. could be breaking international humanitarian law. Let's get into the discussion and meet our panel. |
| 1:46.6 | Joining us from New Haven is Ona Hathaway. |
| 1:49.7 | She's a professor of international law at Yale Law School. |
| 1:53.8 | She's also the president-elect of the American Society of International Law. |
| 1:55.0 | Ona, welcome to the program. |
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