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Donald Trump's new commission on religious liberty met last week for the first time.

When Trump signed the executive order in May establishing the group,

he marked the occasion with these words. They say separation between church and state, they told me.

I said, all right, let's forget about that for one time. We said, really, the separation? I don't

know. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I'm not sure. But whether there's separation or not,

you guys are in the White House where you should be, and you're representing our country,

and we're bringing religion back to our country. And it's a big deal.

Now, you might ask yourself, isn't the separation of church and state guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution?

Can the president just forget about it, even once? Well, the answer is a bit complicated.

Today, we have another installment of our weekly series, if you can keep it, where we take a look at a big political story of the moment and what it means for our democracy.

I'm Jen White. You're listening to the

WhatA podcast. We get into Trump's administration's efforts to, quote, bring religion back

right after this. The House of Representatives has approved a White House request to clawback

two years of previously approved funding for public media.

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