The U.S. has a long history of getting rid of foreign leaders it doesn't like, but a new pattern has emerged in the Trump administration's dealings with adversaries.

In January, President Trump ordered a precision military operation that seized Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro and brought him to the United States.

Last month, in cooperation with Israel, the administration launched a high-powered bombing campaign against Iran,

killing the country's supreme leader, and dozens of top officials, now finds itself trying to negotiate a ceasefire after the Islamic

Republic seized the Strait of Hormuz rocking the global economy.

In both cases, Trump has said the country spate is ultimately up to its citizens.

That's a striking change from the nation building during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now, President Trump has his eyes on Cuba telling the president there he must go.

I'm Jen White. And I'm Todd's Willick. You're listening to the 1A podcast. Today for our weekly

politics series, if you can keep it, we ask what Trump's military actions in Venezuela and Iran

mean for how we fight wars and what comes after. We'll be back with more after this short break. Stay with us.

Welcome back. Let's get into our discussion and meet our guests.

Joining us here in studio is Vera Bergen-Gruin. She's a national security reporter at the Wall Street Journal.

Vera, welcome back. Thank you. And Kelly Griko. She's a national security reporter at the Wall Street Journal. Vera, welcome back.

Thank you. And Kelly Griko, she's a senior fellow with the reimagining U.S. Grand Strategy Program at the Stimson Center, where her work focuses on U.S. foreign policy and military strategy. Kelly, welcome. Thank you for having me. And we want to hear from you. Do you think the U.S. should try to remove leaders at views as hostile to U.S. interests.

If so, what is our commitment to promote... to hear from you, do you think the U.S. should try to remove leaders at views as hostile to U.S.

interests? If so, what is our commitment to promoting democracy abroad? And if you've lived in a

country where the U.S. has intervened or tried to influence political change, we'd love to hear

about your experience. Email us at 1A. at wamu.org. Avira, in a recent Wall Street Journal piece, you wrote about a Trump administration strategy

for foreign interventions.

And a State Department official you spoke to called it decapitate and delegate.

Just explain what that means.

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