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If Jack Survived | "After the Fire" (417) with Pamela Adlon

That Was Us

That Was Us

Film Interviews, Tv & Film, Tv Reviews

4.92.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 17: After the Fire. While in therapy, Randall begins to imagine what life might have looked like if Jack had survived the house fire, revealing just how differently the Pearsons’ lives could have turned out. This week on the podcast we also have a very exciting guest join us in studio, the one and only Pamela Adlon! Pamela talks about her time playing Dr. Leigh on the show, what she remembers about working with Sterling in her scenes, fun memories from filming, her hilarious Oprah story, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Make home the best part of life. Head to https://cozyearth.com and use our code TWU for up to 20% off. -Buy four cartons and get the fifth free, at https://davidprotein.com/thatwasus. David has officially launched nationwide at Walmart. Humans aren’t perfect, but David is. ------------------------- 🍋 About the Show: The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments. Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday. ------------------------- 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:32 Discussion 00:49:21 Interview 01:30:31 Outro Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley Video Editor: Todd Hughlett Mix & Master: Jason Richards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

On today's episode of that was us, we're diving into season four, episode 17, after the fire.

0:18.0

While in therapy, Randall begins to imagine what life might have looked like

0:22.3

if Jack had survived the house fire,

0:24.8

revealing just how differently

0:26.2

the Pearson's lives could have turned out.

0:32.5

Gang.

0:33.7

Final two.

0:35.0

This episode scrambled my brain.

0:38.9

How so?

0:39.5

Just all of the different time.

0:41.5

I mean, it's not just different timelines.

0:43.5

Yeah.

0:44.2

It's hypothetical scenarios.

0:46.7

Yeah.

0:47.1

Timelines all happening in one mentally old person's brain.

0:53.0

Yeah.

0:54.0

This is interesting.

0:55.7

This episode is probably the most upsetting to my wife.

0:59.5

Why?

1:00.6

We'll get to it.

1:01.7

Because it's not for the same reasons why I think it's upsetting to me.

1:05.4

Yeah.

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