"If He Could Just Go Away" — Kouri Richins' Affair Texts Exposed in Court on the Day Eric Died Four Years Ago
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🗓️ 5 March 2026
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
The Kouri Richins murder trial took its most personal turn yet as prosecutors called her longtime boyfriend to the stand — and walked the jury through years of texts that prosecutors say reveal exactly what Kouri wanted, and what she was willing to do to get it.
Robert Josh Grossman testified on the four-year anniversary of Eric Richins' death. He broke down on the stand reading private messages that included Kouri telling him: "If he could just go away and you could just be here. Life would be so perfect." And: "I can't expect you to sit around for the day the trigger gets pulled."
The texts prosecutors presented told a layered story — from Kouri asking Grossman in January 2022 if he had ever done drugs, to a February dream text where she imagined divorcing Eric and buying the Midway Mansion with Grossman, to the morning Eric died when their brunch plans fell apart and Kouri texted: "Eric passed away. Talk later."
But prosecutors also revealed something the jury hadn't yet seen about who Eric Richins really was behind closed doors. He secretly consulted a divorce attorney. He built a living trust naming his sister — not Kouri — as trustee over $7.6 million in assets. He told his estate attorney that Kouri had taken $250,000 of his money using his power of attorney. And he chose not to revoke it because, in his own words, she was the mother of his children.
Two weeks after Eric died, Kouri and Grossman drove into the Uinta Mountains. According to Grossman's testimony, Kouri asked him what it feels like to kill someone.
The defense moved for a mistrial. The judge asked for a written motion. Kouri Richins has pleaded not guilty and is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brukes. |
| 0:03.3 | Here now, Tony Brewski. |
| 0:07.3 | If he could just go away and you could be here, |
| 0:13.4 | life would be so perfect. |
| 0:17.6 | Corey Richens typed those words to her boyfriend. |
| 0:40.9 | While her husband was still alive and on the four-year anniversary of the morning of Eric Richens being found no longer breathing in his own bed, a jury in Park City, Utah, sat in a courtroom and heard that message read aloud. |
| 0:51.7 | Corey Richens, of course, if you've been playing along at home, you know she has pled not guilty to the murder of her husband. |
| 0:59.8 | She, of course, maintains her innocence under the law, but the prosecution spent that day during something the forensic accountants and cell tower maps couldn't quite do. |
| 1:04.9 | They made it human. |
| 1:06.9 | They put a man on the stand who loved her, who read her words in front of strangers who broke |
| 1:13.9 | down more than once, and who told the jury that when Corey asked him what it felt like to kill |
| 1:19.7 | someone, he didn't really think anything of it. |
| 1:27.9 | We'll get there. |
| 1:29.5 | First, you need to understand who Robert Josh Grossman is, because his testimony only lands if you |
| 1:38.5 | actually know what this relationship actually was. |
| 1:42.0 | So let's get into it, shall we? |
| 1:49.1 | There was a lot of reading today. A lot of dead air, |
| 1:57.5 | if you're just listening to the show, if you will. I don't know why they didn't read half of these out loud. I don't know if it's a rule. I think it's something to do with that, but whatever. A lot of text messages displayed up on the screen. |
| 2:06.1 | And a lot of finding out the |
| 2:08.3 | deep caveats and crevices of this relationship. |
| 2:15.7 | Just, yeah. When you look at it and you go, oh, God. |
| 2:24.8 | As we go through the day's events, some of those texts and then what was revealed, |
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