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Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.2 • 7.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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It’s 77 weeks before Election Day and over half a dozen people have already thrown their hats into the G.O.P race. On our new podcast, “Matter of Opinion,” Michelle Cottle, Ross Douthat, Carlos Lozada and Lydia Polgreen take a tour of the 2024 Republican primary field to understand what it takes to survive in the present-day Republican ecosystem — and maybe even beat the Trump in the room. (A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.) Listen to this podcast in New York Times Audio, our new iOS app for news subscribers. Download now at nytimes.com/audioapp.

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0:00.0	What nickname do you think Trump would give to us?
0:04.1	Do you think you'd marry a nickname, Carlos?
0:06.9	Maybe a little Carly.
0:08.5	He would play out like little Marco, little Carlo.
0:10.7	Lazy Lassada.
0:12.1	Yeah.
0:13.1	Does he have a nickname for you, Ross?
0:14.6	I don't think I have a nickname.
0:15.8	I wrote a column after he won the Republican nomination that said,
0:20.2	what's the biggest thing you got wrong in the last year?
0:22.3	I thought Trump couldn't win the Republican nomination and he proved me wrong,
0:26.0	but I still don't think he'll be president.
0:27.8	And somebody cut out the column for it and he scribbled on it.
0:31.2	Like, I'm going to prove you wrong again.
0:33.3	Sign Donald Trump.
0:35.4	I, my wife actually, actually framed it.
0:40.6	From New York Times opinion, I'm Lydia Polgrain.
0:43.4	I'm Michelle Cottle.
0:44.4	I'm Ross Douthit.
0:45.7	I'm Carlos Lassada.
0:47.2	And this is Matter of Opinion.
0:58.8	We may be 77 weeks out from the election, my God,
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