Identifying and Exploiting the Weaknesses of White Supremacist Groups

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🗓️ 14 April 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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A lot of people are expressing anxiety about white supremacist violent terrorism, yet in a new Brookings paper entitled "Identifying and Exploiting the Weaknesses of the White Supremacist Movement," Daniel Byman, Lawfare's foreign policy editor and a senior fellow at the Brookings Center for Middle East Policy, and Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Center on Extremism at the Anti-Defamation League, say that while the threat is real, these movements have weaknesses that other terrorist groups do not. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Byman and Pitcavage to talk about these weaknesses, how white supremacist groups are vulnerable and how law enforcement in the United States can exploit them to reduce the threat.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:33.8	I don't think there are places in this country where there are sizeable numbers of extremists
0:39.3	who actually can cross the line into criminal activity with impunity.
0:43.9	There are prosecutions of extremists for terrorist plots or attacks in every corner of this
0:48.8	country, you know, on a regular basis.
0:51.9	The bottom line is if you start an extremist group, like a white supremacist group in this
0:56.6	country with the purpose of committing violence, you're not going to last very long before
1:02.0	the FBI is all over you and, you know, is essentially trying to dismantle you.
1:07.9	I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast April 14, 2021.
1:15.6	A lot of people are expressing anxiety about white supremacist violent terrorism.
1:22.9	And yet in a new Brookings paper, Daniel Bimon and Mark Pitt-Cavage say these movements
1:29.6	have really devastating weaknesses.
1:33.7	Bimon is of course LawFair's foreign policy editor and a senior fellow in the Brookings
1:38.8	Center for Middle East policy.
1:41.6	Pitt-Cavage is a senior research fellow at the Center of Extremism at the Anti-Defamation
1:47.6	Week.
1:48.6	The paper is entitled Identifying and Exploiting the Weaknesses of the White supremacist
1:53.9	Movement.
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