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LinkedIn. So following the discussion with Andy Rhodes, the Chief Constable

of Lancashire this week, this is a second episode about the police and my original

plan I'll be honest with you was to to edit both of them and get one mega episode about the policing profession.

But to be honest, both were just too good to chop up.

So I want to flag that this is kind of about work culture, but also it's just a brilliant

chat with a fascinating person.

So if you're looking just for specifics about purpose and those sort of things, you're going to find it's filled actually

peppered with that but also peppered with discussions about innovation in

complex jobs. Consider it as sort of a box set with the other police episode. When it gets

into its flow, it covers dog shows, walking buses or manner of just like crazy genius.

Today's guest then is Stephen Colgan.

He joined the police after a bet from his dad, which he explains.

And I've put onto him by our last guest Andy Rhodes,

who told me about the ways they'd used clever innovations

to reduce the tension on council estates and so rather than chop this chat down

I decided just to to put it out so Stephen covers the way that they

led innovation in in the workplace and the police and I just find the whole

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