There have to be some common sense.

There have to be some common sense.

Yes, sir.

And they have the car stopped in the ranch, microphone.

We still don't know who pulled the trigger. Hello everyone and welcome to police off the Cuff Real Crime Stories.

I'm your host's retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD, retired out of Manhattan North Homicide Squad.

And with me tonight, this retired NYPD detective and straight out of Brooklyn, Phil Grimaldi, how you doing tonight, Phil?

I'm doing pretty good, Billy.

How are you doing?

Very good.

And we have, this is her second time on the show.

We have Dr. Debbie Goodman,

the chair of the Criminal Justice Department

at St. Thomas University in Miami.

Deb, so nice to have you here.

Oh, so honored and delighted Sergeant Bill, Detective Phil. I'm a big fan. It has a ring to it, Sergeant Bill and Detective

Phil. Right. That's going to be your next show. That's right. Sergeant Bill and Detective Phil.

You know, Debbie, I know that you and even your students, you've been following this case.

We're into the fourth week.

It's a horrific murder of four college kids ages of 20 and 21.

And the twist and turns, like, there's some twists and turns, but it's like the public and the press demand

an arrest and demand the person of interest in the first three weeks.

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