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You're listening to an Oh no media podcast.

Good morning and thanks for joining me for rise in crime.

Your morning caffeine hit, all about crime.

I'm Mama Jules, and here we go again

with another update in the spinning carnival ride

that is the Chad and Lori Day Bell case. So let's start with Lori

Valo Day Bell. We'll get to Chad in a minute. I thought it would be a bit before I gave you any kind of an update on Lori Valo, but her transfer to Maricopa County in Arizona

happened much sooner than most people expected, and it also happened quite secretly.

Okay, remember, Idaho Colt mom, Lori Valo,

was found guilty this summer of first-degree murder

of her two children, seven-year-old JJ,

and 16-year-old Tiley Ryan. She was also found guilty of conspiracy to commit

murder for her two children and for her new husband Chad Daybell's wife

Tammy Day Bell.

You guys, it's always such a mouthful

to retell this story, but I'll remind you,

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