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involves risk. Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm Lucy Dunn and today I'm

joined by James Heel and Tim Shipman. Labor conference is almost upon us, but before that, Kier Starmar gave us speech in London today at the Global Progress Action Summit. James, you're writing about this for Coffee House. What are the top lines?

Well, really, it's just one big announcement, which is the introduction of a new digital ID card, which will be mandatory by the end of this Parliament and ensures that if you want to work

in the UK, you will have to have this ID card to show your potential employer. And I think there

were two audiences for today's speech, one of which was Starmer's party as we approach, a very

difficult conference from this weekend, and the other was the general public. And I think there

were lots of comments in there was 20 minute speech, mocking those who take aim at sort of London as a kind of wasteland of anarchy and trying to reassure his party after a summer which they feel that the Prime Minister hasn't stood up to what they consider to be the rise of the far right. And then the second was, of course, the public. And the public feeling that Prime Minister hasn't got a grip of these issues, he has sought to use digital ID card, something which has majority public support, but is posed by a very vocal minority, including the leaders of all the rival political parties as a way of showing that he is standing up for their interests. He says that most progressive, decent people will support the instruction of a digital ID card. And so it was his kind of rebuttal to some of his critics,

who say, for instance, that centre-left governments can't win elections and that they aren't proposing proper solutions to some of the issues facing Britain right now. Yeah, Tim, on the subject to digital ID cards, so it's been dubbed a Brit card, which has raised eyebrows among some Scottish and Welsh people. And Northern Ireland. Yeah, of course. I mean, how do you think it's been received so far? And will it work?

Will it work? That's amongst some Scottish and Welsh people. And Northern Ireland. Yeah, of course. I mean,

how do you think it's been received so far and will it work? Will it work? That's one of those great questions, isn't it? Will it work politically or will it work actually? Are two slightly

different questions because a lot of the scepticism comes from sort of libertarians who you don't like

the idea of government intrusion, but then a lot of

other people have sort of practical concerns, which is that what sort of data will this card hold

and how secure will it be, because government IT projects have a rather poor record, both on

cost grounds and on working grounds. But, you know, the government's hoping this will be more like the successful NHS app during the pandemic

rather than some of the other schemes that we've seen in the past.

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