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And Kate, I don't know about you, but I have this feeling

that 2025 is going to be BAD bad. Do you get that sense, too? I don't know what about this past

month would make you come to that conclusion. I mean, look, sometimes it feels like we've been here before. Other times it feels even heavier this time around. But I have a theory, a possible solution for getting through this year. Can I share it with you? Absolutely. Absolutely, you must.

So my hot take is that if we cannot safely be on Twitter or TikTok, if the grass people tell us the touch

is on fire and burnt and the news is overwhelming and frustrating, I wonder if the best way to get

through this year will be through memes. Okay. When you say memes, do you mean making memes?

Do you mean seeking out the memes? Are you going to become a meme?

I would love to become a meme because then I would be going on the Ellen Show of 2025, aka Jennifer Hudson Show. But I was wondering where you're going to go with that. I know. All of it. I mean, I think that memes kind of transcend time. You know, you don't

exactly know when a meme was made, but you use it for years to come. So I'm thinking of math lady.

I'm thinking of the way Doge is literally in the news right now. I just think that memes are kind of

this time capsule that take us back to an earlier era of the internet. I'm going to say like 2012,

2016, ish, while providing that like one drop of dopamine or that one laugh that we need to get

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