ICYMI: Why “The Ultimatum: Queer Love” Ultimately Fails

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🗓️ 10 June 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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On today’s show, Candice and Rachelle are joined by Lindsay Lee Wallace, a culture writer who recently reviewed the second season of Netflix’s reality dating show The Ultimatum for TIME. The three discuss how the show’s unhinged conceit fares when all the contestants are queer and how the season’s reception on the internet. They dive deep into the chaos subsumed The Ultimatum subreddit, where one of the contestant’s name was briefly banned because so many critical threads were being posted about them. And they determine the show achieves of its two aims: to be messy and to show the interior lives of queer couples. This show is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I made you think you was real.
0:02.0	My name is Caden Sinclair.
0:04.0	Some people call us American royalty.
0:06.0	We were liars.
0:07.0	A new series on Prime Video.
0:09.0	We were happy. We wanted for nothing.
0:12.0	Based on the best-selling novel.
0:15.0	Something terrible happened last summer,
0:17.0	and I have no memory of what or who hurt me.
0:20.0	No one in my family will tell me.
0:22.4	When you're left for dead, you want answers.
0:25.2	We Will Liars. New series, watch now, only on Prime Video. Hi, I'm Rachel Hampton.
0:44.2	And I'm Candace Lim, and you're listening to I-C-Y-M-I.
0:47.3	In case you missed it.
0:48.7	Slate's podcast about internet culture.
0:51.1	And I'm going to be so completely honest right now. I don't have the patience
0:56.2	to do a fun little banter because I just, I need to dive into today's episode. We have so much to
1:03.7	cover. Today, we're talking about the second season of Netflix's reality TV dating show, The Ultimatum.
1:21.2	I'm going to be honest, I feel sorry for you, listeners, if you don't love reality television.
1:26.9	And by sorry, I mean, I'm not sorry.
1:29.1	This is our show. But there's a reason we're talking about this specific show during this
1:35.3	specific month. The show ultimatum, which comes from the Nick and Vanessa Lechet cinematic
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