ICYMI - What Next: TBD: The Trouble With TikTok Songs
ICYMI
Slate Podcasts
3.9 • 800 Ratings
🗓️ 5 July 2023
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
How the music streaming business opened the door to billions of dollars in fraud.
Guest: Ashley Carman, Bloomberg News reporter covering the podcasting, music, and audio beat.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Rachel Hampton. |
| 0:14.3 | And I'm Candace Lem, and you're listening to I-C-Y-M-I. |
| 0:17.9 | In case you missed it, Slate's podcast about internet culture. |
| 0:22.0 | And today we have a special treat. |
| 0:24.8 | We're bringing you a very fun episode from our friends over at What Next TBD podcast. |
| 0:31.5 | In this episode, host Lizzie O'Leary brings in Ashley Carmen, a Bloomberg news reporter |
| 0:37.4 | who covers the podcasting, music, |
| 0:39.7 | and audio beat. |
| 0:41.4 | The two discuss how the music streaming business has opened the door to billions of dollars |
| 0:47.2 | in fraud. |
| 0:48.2 | Mm-hmm. |
| 0:49.4 | And without further ado, here's the show. |
| 1:06.9 | I started my interview with Ashley Carmen by asking her to listen to a song, or rather a clip of a song. Hey, it know what that was? |
| 1:18.5 | Yes. I am very well aware. Can you tell me what it was? Yes. So it's a song called Hey Kids by an artist named Molina. |
| 1:31.1 | She's a Danish Chilean singer. |
| 1:34.1 | And Ashley knows the song because it was a key part of a story she just wrote. |
| 1:38.6 | Ashley covers all things audio for Bloomberg News. |
| 1:42.5 | I asked her to humor me and listen to another clip. |
| 1:57.6 | What's this one? |
| 2:01.3 | If you wanted Hey Kids, but it's sped up. |
| 2:07.5 | If you wanted Hey Kids on a streaming service like Spotify and found that track, |
| 2:10.9 | it might seem like the Molina song, but it's not. |
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