Hey, I'm Kate Lindsay, and you're listening to I-C-Y-M-I, or in case you missed it, Slate's podcast about internet culture.

And here with me today is another Kate in many ways, Laura Kate Dale.

Hello Laura.

Hi, how are you?

I am good and I'm also just realizing Laura is my mom's name.

So there's like a lot of name connection happening here.

A small world, isn't it?

But Laura, you are a writer. You're a gamer. You're also a streamer yourself, correct?

Yes, I am. I've been a weekly, multiple times a week streamer for, gosh, nearly a decade now, which makes me feel old.

Oh, my God. I mean, I could have guessed because you have, like, that amazing background that

streamers have, which is like, I mean, perfectly in like a soft focus. I believe, like, those are

bunny ears on the chair. Yeah, they are. You know, it's, it comes with the package of streaming. At some point, you've got to have a notable chair behind you.

Yeah, and just for context, I am under a blanket. So, different energies, but all of this, the gaming, the writing, the streaming, it makes you perfect for today's episode. But before we get into why, Laura, I have to ask you

the question that we ask all first timers on the show, which is, what is your first internet memory?

So, I know I must have used the internet, like, earlier than this memory, but this is the first one

that's, like, an actual solid memory I have. It would have been the summer of like 2004, and I'd been reading some

Nintendo magazine that talked about this new Zelda game, Twilight Princess, that had had this,

like, big trailer shown in America, and, you know, it's a magazine. I was a big Zelda fan. I

wanted to see this trailer. So I remember trying to use my parents' computer in the

computer room back when that was a thing that we still did, to download what must have been

like a 240p upload of this Zelda trailer that obviously took like all day to download,

can't be using the phone at the same time.

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