Hey, I'm Kate Lindsay, and you're listening to I-C-Y-M-I, or in case you missed it, Slate's podcast about internet culture.

And the story currently dominating media Twitter, but I feel like some very online people

will probably be interested as well, is the return of Olivia Nuzzi.

And so we're going to get into that off the bat with today's episode guest, Rebecca

Jennings, features writer at New York Magazine. Rebecca, welcome, but most

importantly, have you been following this? Okay, so I was on a work trip this weekend, so I'm

kind of out of the loop, but I did read the excerpt, and I read her ex-Rioniza's substack about it,

which really ends with a great twist.

For those who haven't been following, Olivia Nuzzi was the journalist who had an inappropriate relationship with RFK Jr. At the time he was running in the 2024 election, now you might know

him as Trump's Secretary of Health and Human Services, and she was fired from her job at New York

magazine last year.

But now, she has returned to the spotlight ahead of her new book, American Canto,

and she's detailing all this and more.

She's gotten a New York Times profile about her.

The excerpt was published in Vanity Fair, like you mentioned.

She's also joining Vanity Fair as West Coast editor. So, yes,

and then there was this lore drop, literally breaking news last night from her ex, Ryan Lizza,

detailing even more unknown details about what went down in their like 10-year relationship.

But let's just talk about the excerpt. What do you think of the excerpt? Are you going to

read the book? Oh, I absolutely want to read the book. I, you know, I liked the way it wove in

details about the American West with, you know, the tumult of what she was going through at the time.

I've always thought she was a really great writer, and I just cannot wait to,

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