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ICYMI: The Real Story of “West Elm Caleb”

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41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The name on every TikTokker’s lips is “West Elm Caleb,” a New York City twenty-something whose dating practices and history have come under major scrutiny, after women started posting videos about their negative experiences with him. Things quickly got out of control as more and more people got swept up in the gossipy drama. On today’s episode, Madison and Rachelle talk to some of the women who shared their own stories about dating Caleb online. Then, they discuss how this is a moment both about the power of women coming together to protect each other and the way that this collective’s motives can quickly turn south. Podcast production by Daniel Schroeder and Derek John. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Obviously, we're all watching the Weston Caleb drama, even if, you know, we live in Chicago

0:10.8

like me.

0:11.8

Hi, I'm Rachel Hanson, and I'm Madison Malone Kircher.

0:16.8

You're listening to ICYMI, in case you missed it, Slate's podcast about internet culture.

0:22.2

Rachel, I have to ask, have you been seeing the TikToks about Weston Caleb?

0:28.1

Okay, so I think when I was on TikTok about two or three days ago, it just started crossing my

0:34.4

FYP, and I was like, oh, this, this is gonna blow up. It did mostly remind me of how much I hate

0:41.6

dating though. Tell me more. I know how much you love hearing about my dating life, so I'm finally

0:48.0

gonna tell you the story of the worst day that I ever went on.

0:55.6

Picture this, a young girl. I think I was like 19 or 20. I definitely could not drink at this

1:01.0

point. I was in DC interning, and so I was like, let me go on a few tender dates while I'm here,

1:07.1

because I was stupid. And I went on a date with this dude who worked at the DOJ, and never go on a

1:13.9

museum date for your first date, because it's a too long, and b, you get trapped. So two hours

1:21.5

into this first date, where to be clear, I am ill. I had a cold at this time, and this is before

1:28.5

people stopped going outside when they were sick. We're sitting down, and the conversation is

1:33.9

pedering out, and he turns to me, and he says, why did your parents name you Jessica? And I was,

1:41.7

I was just like, they didn't, they didn't name me Jessica, that's not my name. And he was like,

1:48.5

what? And I was just like, it's been two hours, and this bitch does not know my name. So what happened

1:57.6

after that date? So again, I was young and stupid and ill, so I continued on this date for another 30

2:04.3

minutes. I was hopped up on day coil. Don't come for me. But I never saw him again, because I

2:14.4

did not respond to any of his messages after that, because the first one was, I don't know if the

2:18.1

name thing threw you off, but I'd love to get dinner again. So you ghosted? Yes, but I think it was

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