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Or in case you missed it, Slate's podcast about internet culture.

And with me, I have Manny Fidel. Welcome to the podcast, Manning.

It's a pleasure to be here, Kate. Mani, you are a culture writer yourself. You also have your

own podcast, no such thing, which I have no family relation to my, what is it, brother-in-law,

certainly is not your co-host. This is not

a nepo situation here. I've never heard of this guy. I don't know who you're talking about.

We'll get to why we thought you were the perfect guest for this episode in a minute,

but first I have to bombard you with the question that we ask all first time,

I see why my guess, which is what is your earliest internet memory?

That would have to be me trying to download a game on Windows 95, on my Windows 95 PC in like 1998 or 9 and it was like it was something similar to

mine sweeper or something like that a game that's yeah like a game that's probably five

megabytes to download but it was taking our like hours, hours and hours to

try and get this game off of the internet. I jumped straight to like, oh, it must have been like,

I don't know, FIFA or I had like high hopes for you at that even though it was. No, this, this game was

the size of probably like a calendar event in 2025 but it simply would not

download to my computer yeah were you like a PC gamer growing up not really like after after

trying to get that game we we you said this isn't or so like you know what I think they make

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