ICYMI | Taylor Swift Is Rewriting Her Internet History

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4.6 • 636 Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Kate Lindsay and Candice Lim wade through the negative reactions to Taylor Swift’s album The Life of a Showgirl. From outdated meme references to clunky shots at other female artists, Swift’s album indicates an oddly distant relationship with the internet. However, is she a devious online mastermind or a blundering millennial? Plus, why it’s important that this album’s backlash has gone largely unchallenged by fellow Swifties. Get more of ICYMI with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of ICYMI and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the ICYMI show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/icymiplus for access wherever you listen. This podcast is produced by Vic Whitley-Berry, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, I'm Candace Lim.
0:15.0	And I'm Kate Lindsay, and you're listening to I see YMIMI in case you missed it.
0:20.6	Slate's podcast about internet culture, but unfortunately, not the podcast that was name-dropped in Taylor Swift's new album, The Life of a Showgirl.
0:29.8	That podcast on her obviously went to New Heights, which is the podcast hosted by her fiancé, Travis Kelsey.
0:37.2	I'll know if you've heard.
0:38.8	She and Travis Kelsey are getting married.
0:40.7	She really likes him.
0:42.7	And his brother, Jason Kelsey.
0:45.0	I mean, would we even want to be name-dropped on this album?
0:48.4	Because I don't know about you, Kate.
0:50.9	I have some thoughts.
1:00.4	Thank you. I have some thoughts. First off, I need to say something proudly.
1:03.6	I am not a Swifty.
1:06.0	I am Mark safe.
1:07.3	I need to stop with the allegations.
1:09.5	And the thing is, I am really only seeing negative
1:13.3	reactions from Swifties, from Normies, from critics, unless your name is Rolling Stone. I am just
1:19.4	having the hardest time this weekend finding one person who likes this album. And I have to say this, you and I just did this plus episode explaining 6-7.
1:32.0	Hey, you're welcome, everyone. Now, we did this plus episode. We played a song where we think
1:37.4	6-7 comes from. It's the song by Skrilla called Do Do. And there was this clip we posted where
1:43.1	like your face is great. Your face is
1:46.6	kind of, let's say, disgusted and dismayed. I'm viving like a crazy person. However,
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