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Rachel Maddow.

Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.

Trevor, it's great to see you.

Thank you for having me.

It's nice to join you in your hive from my hive.

This has been an interesting experience for everybody in this world,

because we're doing the thing we do in a way that we don't do.

Today we're going to talk about your book.

And if I told people, Rachel Maddow's on with a book about a corrupt president

who has explosive rhetoric and is extremely divisive and has used the White House

for his own ends, people will be like, ah, Donald Trump.

And you're like, no, you're wrong.

And they'll be like, ah, you got me.

Richard Nixon.

And you're like, no, you're still wrong.

And then you'd be like, it's Spiro Agnew.

So let me ask you this.

When we talk about the book, is it good or bad that America has seen something similar to this before?

I think there is a big piece of it that can help, which is not that Agnew was a corrupt,

unbelievably corrupt sort of monster in the White House.

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