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I'm David Gura, InfraGen White.

And this is, in case you missed it, where we bring you some of the week's biggest conversations.

This week, the Atlantic magazine published an exclusive interview with Harlan Crow, the

ultra-wealthy real estate developer whose friendship and financial relationship with Supreme

Court Justice Clarence Thomas is the subject of much scrutiny.

The interview was done by Atlantic staff writer Graham Wood at Crow's home in Dallas, Texas.

One A's Gen White spoke to Graham about the article, and we'll let Gen take it from here.

Thanks for joining us.

Good to be with you.

So just a quick reminder for people who may not be familiar with Harlan Crow's background.

Tell us a little bit about him.

Harlan Crow is an extremely wealthy real estate developer in Dallas, Texas.

His father was also an extremely wealthy real estate developer.

And he's been in the news because one of his closest friends is Supreme Court Justice Clarence

Thomas.

And it turns out that Thomas has been the recipient of a number of gifts from Crow.

And a lot of people think that maybe Crow has undue influence over the Supreme Court justice.

And then on the side, it turns out that he has, Crow has a large historical collection

that includes some Nazi memorabilia, which is always something that will raise eyebrows.

When you went to his home, you start off the article in his quote, Garden of Evil.

Crow is a prolific art collector, described, but walking through that garden was like.

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