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🗓️ 15 January 2021
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Eli Saslow and former white nationalist Derek Black discuss "Rising Out of Hatred," which chronicles how Black's college experience led him to renounce his racist beliefs.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to Comedy Central. |
0:02.5 | BAM! |
0:03.5 | Welcome to the show. |
0:05.5 | I'm going to jump straight into it because this is honestly one of the most fascinating |
0:09.0 | stories I've ever come across. |
0:10.0 | I remember an op-ed you wrote about it, but I'm going to start with you, Eli. |
0:14.1 | How do you decide to write the story? |
0:16.6 | How do you even believe the story and where do you start in saying, here's a formal white |
0:20.5 | nationalist. |
0:21.5 | When did you start learning about Derek? |
0:22.5 | So I was writing about Dylan Roof, who'd committed the hate murder of nine people at a church |
0:27.0 | in Charleston, South Carolina, a historically black church, and he'd spent a lot of time |
0:30.7 | on this site called Stormfront. |
0:32.5 | So I went on the site to try to learn about him, learn about this community. |
0:35.7 | It's the largest hate site in the world. |
0:37.5 | And there were certainly threads on there saying really upsetting things about what Dylan |
0:41.3 | Roof had done, celebrating him, but the biggest thread was about somebody named Derek |
0:44.7 | Black, who was the son of the founder of this board, David Duke's godson, had been raised |
0:49.6 | to sort of lead this ideology, and then had disavowed it and sort of disappeared. |
0:54.1 | And so I wanted to find him, and I did. |
0:56.7 | So you're looking for, I remember the name of Derek Black, who people are saying on the |
1:00.7 | sites is basically the mastermind behind this ideology, someone who's inspired them. |
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