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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

ICYMI: Edward Norton’s theory of mind, movies, and power

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2019

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Summary

Due to a technical glitch this interview with Edward Norton did not find it’s way into most people’s feeds. If you were able to download the first one this is indeed the exact same interview, but if you missed it please give a listen and enjoy - we had a lot of fun with this one. You’ve heard of Edward Norton. He’s starred in critically acclaimed films like American History X, Fight Club, and Birdman, been nominated for multiple Academy Awards, and, most recently, wrote, directed, and starred in Motherless Brooklyn, a film about a detective with Tourette’s syndrome who ends up taking on the most corrupt and powerful forces in New York City politics. Motherless Brooklyn, as it happens, is one of my all-time favorite books. And so this conversation was an unexpected pleasure. In addition to a joint love of Motherless Brooklyn, Norton and I share an unusual number of interests: Meditation, the uncontrollable nature of the mind, the difficulty of solving problems by thinking about them, the psychology of power, media analytics, cultural ideas of heroism, thwarted masculinity in politics, Ralph Nader, and more. It’s rare that I think a conversation could’ve gone for hours more. But it’s true for this one. References: Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem This Could Be Our Future by Yancey Strickler Catching the Big Fish by David Lynch   *The world according to Ralph Nader* Book recommendations: Barbarian Days by William Finnegan  Wind, Sand, and Stars by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry Buddhism without Beliefs by Stephen Batchelor If you like this episode, check out: What Buddhism got right about the human brain You will love this conversation with Jaron Lanier, but I can’t describe it My book is available for pre-order! You can find it at www.EzraKlein.com. Want to contact the show? Reach out at ezrakleinshow@vox.com You can subscribe to Ezra's new podcast Impeachment, explained on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Overcast, Pocket Casts, or your favorite podcast app. Credits: Producer and Editor - Jeff Geld Researcher - Roge Karma Engineer - Jeff Geld Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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People want them, people can't get them, everyone is talking about them.

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They seem to work by removing hunger, but what does that really mean?

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This episode of Gastropod, we talked to people who have taken these drugs and felt their hunger suddenly disappear.

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We also talk to the researchers who are figuring out the science of hunger and fullness,

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how it works and how it shapes our lives, plus why each of us experiences it so differently.

0:28.0

Come with us behind the headlines to hear what these drugs can tell us about the feelings that bookend each and every meal.

0:34.0

Listen to Gastropod wherever you get your podcasts.

0:37.0

Hey folks, so this is a quick addendum to this show.

0:40.0

This interview with Edward Arnan, which I loved, it was so fun.

0:44.0

And then got trapped in what appears to have been some kind of catastrophic technical failure,

0:49.0

which we haven't even fully untangled, but it led to this show not making it into most people's feeds.

0:55.0

So that cannot stand. That aggression cannot stand. It was too good of an episode.

1:00.0

So we're releasing it. If you did get it the first time and you listen to it, this is not different.

1:05.0

It is the one you heard, but if you did not get it, it is different and will change everything for you.

1:11.0

So I hope you enjoy.

1:13.0

The mind just does amazing things in quiet, like it left to its own devices,

1:18.0

and it's so weird that it's also antagonistic to the process of getting quiet.

1:23.0

Hello, welcome to the blind show on the box Media podcast network.

1:29.0

Let me get the announcements out of the way first.

1:40.0

If you're not checking out impeachment, explained my every Saturday podcast about impeachment.

1:45.0

I think you should. You can subscribe to it wherever you subscribe to your podcast,

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