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I'm Rachel Zoe, and you're listening to Climbing in Heels.

This show is all about celebrating the most extraordinary superwomen who will be sharing

their incredible journeys to the top, all while staying glamorous.

Today with me, we have one of my very dear friends who I just have so much

respect for the beautiful soul of a human being, Dr. Barbara Sturm. She's an aesthetic doctor

and founder and CEO of Dr. Barbara Sturm molecular cosmetics. I am so excited to speak with Barbara about how she balances her work

life, her mom life, and what it's like to work together with her beautiful daughter. Because

let's be honest, that is the dream. I'm so lucky. I'm surrounded by the most incredible women in my life. Some I've known my whole life,

some I've known more recently. But I think what I want to understand a little bit,

and I think the thing I really try to touch on in climbing

in heels is your journey to get to the top, all while still being so incredibly

feminine and strong. And I mean, I have to just say, in your case, glamorous. I mean, you're

like always dressed to the nines. Sometimes you'll wear like the

sickest gown ever with heels, of course, but like no makeup. Like you just come in with that

dewy fresh skin. And so I want to really talk about like as a child, were you like Charlie,

were you this like pretty little blonde blue-eyed girl who had dreams?

Or were you just like all over the place and had no idea?

You know, like how did how did Barbara start as Barbara?

You see, I probably was more like pepper.

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