ICYMI: A Timothy Snyder Double Feature
Angry Planet
Matthew Gault
4.3 • 882 Ratings
🗓️ 17 November 2022
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
We’re running our Thanksgiving break episode a week early. We’ll be back next week to talk with Mark Galeotti about Russia, Kherson, and the missiles that just hit Poland.
This week, we’re going far back into our past. It’s a Timothy Snyder double feature. Both of these episodes are from our “War College” days and feature the famous historian at two different points in his journey to the cable news pundit we feel (well, I feel) weirdly ambivalent towards today.
The first is from 2015, and is a disucssion about his book Black Earth. The second is from 2018 and is about his book Road to Unfreedom.
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| 0:05.1 | It's up to you how much you give and there's no regular commitment. Just click the link in the show description to support now. One day all of the facts in about |
| 0:20.0 | about 30 years time will be published. |
| 0:25.0 | When genocide has been carried out in this country almost with impunity and when it is near to |
| 0:34.4 | completion it to talk about intervention. |
| 0:37.0 | You don't get freedom, peaceful. |
| 0:45.0 | Freedom is never safeguarded people. |
| 0:49.0 | Anyone who is depriving you of freedom isn't deserving of a people approach. Hey, angry planet, listeners, Matthew here. We're doing our Thanksgiving break rerun episode a week early. |
| 1:16.0 | So next week while you're spending time with your friends and family you will have a |
| 1:20.0 | new episode of Angry Planet. It is going to be about Russia's invasion of Ukraine. We're talking |
| 1:25.2 | to Mark Goliotti. But we were recording that conversation on Friday. We were supposed to do Monday, |
| 1:29.6 | but some things got shifted around. So we're trying to figure out what we wanted to |
| 1:33.9 | rerun. We've got this vast catalog of old episodes and then the news hit and |
| 1:41.9 | it's just breaking now as I'm sitting down talking to you so I don't |
| 1:46.0 | know exactly what's going on or what the repercussions are going to be but the news |
| 1:49.6 | hit that to what appears to be two Russian rockets hit in Poland and killed some civilians, |
| 1:57.5 | killed some people. |
| 1:58.8 | Again, this happened like maybe 30 minutes ago as I'm sitting here recording and I got to thinking about the |
| 2:06.4 | bloodlands that area that's between Russia and Poland or sorry that area that's between Germany and Russia you know Ukraine |
| 2:16.9 | Poland this area that it's kind of consistently been bullied and beaten and invaded from all of its neighbors and thinking |
| 2:26.0 | about the military buildup in both Poland and Ukraine since the end of World War II |
| 2:30.2 | and everything that NATO and others have done to kind of build up those areas |
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