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Oh, hey guys. Welcome to this spin-off episode of The Daily Zykeyes. We're calling the iconograph.

A show about icons. My name is Jack O'Brien. I co-founded the website Cracked.com.

And for the past seven years, I've co-hosted a daily show with the comedian Miles Gray about the zeitgeist.

In regular episodes of that show, we cover what's happening in our shared consciousness,

our zeitgeist through the news and pop culture of today. But on Monday mornings, on the iconograph,

we're covering the zeitgeist through our icons, basically the stars of our shared consciousness.

Years after they existed, you can say their name and everyone knows what you're talking about.

If I say, good one, Einstein, my seven-year-old son knows I'm sarcastically making fun of him for saying something dumb.

And when I say, good one, Erkel, he knows I'm making fun of him for saying something dumb. And when I say, good one, Erkel,

he knows I'm making fun of him for saying something smart. I'm calling him a nerd. And those are

our first two episodes. We started last week with Einstein, a singular historical figure whose

iconic status was sort of unavoidable based on who he was and what he did.

Episode two, we're covering an icon whose popularity, I think, is interesting for how impossible

it was to predict and how difficult it is to explain all these years later.

I was trying to think of a modern equivalent for Erkel, and this is the best I could do,

and it's not good.

But imagine if when the Rizzler hit peak fame a couple years ago, he just kept getting

more and more famous for like, it's like two to three years instead of giving way to six, seven, and like Italian brain rot and shit, it was just the Rizzler. Just all those things were the Rizler. It was just the Rizler all the way down. That was basically the Erkle era. At the end, as always, I'll be back for my no, no, no, no, no, no book dump where I get to all the interesting stuff I didn't have time for in the episode,

but let's get right into it.

Here I am talking to Miles and special guest, Jakees Neal, about our icon number two, Steve Urkel.

Hello, the internet, and welcome to this spinoff episode of Dernaley Zeitgeist,

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