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Icefish, Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster, Wireless Baby Monitoring. March 1, 2019, Part 2

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🗓️ 1 March 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

During an electrical system test early in in the morning of April 26, 1986, Reactor 4 of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant exploded. The disaster at the plant was not caused solely by the test, however—a perfect storm of engineering and design missteps, operational errors, and cultural problems all aligned to bring about the catastrophe. In his new book, Midnight In Chernobyl: The Untold Story of the World’s Greatest Nuclear Disaster, journalist Adam Higginbotham describes the events that led up to the meltdown, the dramatic, heroic, and perhaps futile attempts to lessen the extent of the accident, and the attempts by Soviet officials to contain the political ramifications of the explosion. He joins Ira to tell us more. Plus: Every vertebrate has red blood cells—that is, except for a small family of fish from the notothenoid family known collectively as “icefish.” These Antarctic-dwelling fish have translucent blood, white hearts, and have somehow adapted to live without red blood cells or hemoglobin. H. William Detrich, a professor of marine and environmental sciences at Northeastern University, explains how scientists are trying to decipher the secrets of the mysterious icefish. What’s more terrifying than becoming a new parent? Starting out as new parents in the Newborn Intensive Care Unit, where babies spend their first days entangled in wires attached to sensors that monitor their vital signs. But in the digital age, why must wires and sensors take up so much real estate on a tiny baby? That’s the question driving the development of a new monitoring device—a small wireless sensor that takes the scary “science experiment” effect out of the NICU, and gives parents more time to cuddle with their newborn. John Rogers, professor of material science and engineering and director of the Center for Biointegrated Electronics at Northwestern University, joins Ira to discuss how the new device could transform neonatal care in the U.S. and in developing nations around the world.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato.

0:03.0

Later in the hour, we'll be talking about the mind-boggling details of the explosion of the Chernobyl nuclear reactor.

0:10.4

But first, let's talk about blood.

0:13.6

In nearly every vertebrate on earth, parakeets, dogs, lions, sharks, us, blood is red, distinctively so. You all know that. And there's a reason

0:22.9

for this. The hemoglobin in red blood cells binds oxygen molecules and helps them get to

0:29.8

ourselves. Without those red blood cells, we be anemic, have far lower capacity to use the oxygen

0:37.3

we breathe. But venture to Antarctica, and you will

0:40.7

find a biological marvel. The world's only white-blooded fish, the ice fishes. They've evolved

0:48.4

translucent blood free of red blood cells and eboglobin and are somehow doing just fine in the cold waters of the southern ocean.

0:58.1

How do they do it?

1:00.0

Researchers writing in the journal Nature Ecology and Evolution this week have clues from the ice fish genome.

1:06.9

Here to tell us more is Dr. Bill Dietrich, Professor of Biochemistry and Marine Biology

1:12.3

at Northeastern University's Marine Science Center in Boston. Welcome, Dr. Dietrich.

1:18.9

Well, thank you very much, Ira. It's a pleasure to be on your show. It's a pleasure to have

1:22.8

you. Thank you. Paint this a picture of the ice fish forest, so, you know, we're on the radio.

1:27.5

What does it look like?

1:29.5

Okay.

1:30.4

Well, imagine a fairly large fish, about half a meter in length, weighing them one to two kilograms, has a very large crocodile-like head and a rather small body.

1:47.2

Its skin is scaleless and very ghostly pale.

1:52.1

And although you can't see this, it has anaphyrhy is running through its white blood.

1:58.5

And so more than just one fish, it's actually a group of species, correct?

2:04.1

Correct.

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