ICE, TikTok, & the Supreme Court: What's Actually Happening Right Now? (feat. Strict Scrutiny)
Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness
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🗓️ 4 February 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to Getting Better. Today we are locking in on one of the most important questions and things that we need to understand better, which is, is the federal government's actions constitutional in the state of Minnesota right now. To ask that question, we have two of the three hosts from strict scrutiny. If you've been a longtime listener, you may recognize their voices. It's the first time that I'm getting to meet them in person. Honey, we're learning about the Constitution, the federal government, Minnesota, ICE. You came to the right place. |
| 0:25.6 | We're here. Let's learn about it. Melissa, Kate, welcome to getting better. How are you? We are great. |
| 0:31.7 | Thank you so much for having us. I did have to scale a snow mountain to get here today. So New York City has been inundated by snow, and they've plowed it, but they've made these like Matterhorn-like snow mountains. So you have to literally hop over a huge mountain. That's why we're wearing these boots. Like I, these are not, they're nice, but I don't know. Like, I wanted to do more for you. |
| 0:51.5 | No, I brought, I did bring a change of shoe because of this reason. |
| 0:54.5 | I feel like, are we real? I'm so excited to meet you guys, IRL. I have been interviewing you guys since 2023. It's literally 2026. And I'm just so happy to like see you in the flesh in real life. I feel so honored. pivoting right back to the opening part about the snow in New York City at the moment. |
| 1:14.3 | Do you remember that recently? in the flesh in real life, I feel so honored, pivoting right back to the opening part about |
| 1:12.3 | the snow in New York City at the moment. Do you remember that random movie from like the early |
| 1:17.0 | aughts where there's like global warming in New York City like gets overrun in like a blizzard? |
| 1:22.0 | And then like there's like wild packs of wolves and stuff. Like does anyone know this movie I'm |
| 1:26.4 | talking about? Is that what it is? Day after tomorrow. I remember that. Is that what it is? It's like global warming and like New York City turns into like... Is this like a Will Smith movie? Oh. Can someone Google it? I do think it's like relevant. It's like we need, you know, when, when fascism and the world is breaking down around us, it's important to bring in pop culture |
| 1:46.3 | levity because if you couldn't laugh out some things, we'd just be crying in the basement |
| 1:51.1 | if you had a basement. |
| 1:52.5 | That's where I would be. |
| 1:53.2 | It was a day after tomorrow. |
| 1:54.3 | And there's like snow everywhere. |
| 1:57.1 | New York freezes. |
| 1:58.3 | Yellowstone blows up. |
| 1:59.5 | Yes. |
| 2:00.6 | Yes. We love Dante's Peak Yellowstone blows up. Yes. Yes. I love a disaster. |
| 2:02.8 | We love Dante's Peak. We love day after tomorrow. We love like a natural disaster situation. |
| 2:09.6 | My theory is is because I feel like if I see natural disasters and like true crime docs, |
| 2:13.7 | I'll be able to predict something like that happening to me. That's what I tell myself. I also love that genre of fiction, like climate science fiction, like clify, you know this genre, like climate disaster dystopia. One of my very favorite genres of novel. Yeah, yeah, like because it's coming. And so I sort of feel like it's preparation, but it's escapism. And, yeah. |
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