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The PoliticsGirl Podcast

ICE out for GOOD: A Conversation with the ACLU

The PoliticsGirl Podcast

MeidasTouch Network, Leigh McGowan

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.9 • 4.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

What’s happening in America right now is horrifying but not surprising. That we are living through an extreme stress test for democracy, but all is not lost. Chief Political and Advocacy Officer at the ACLU, Deirdre Schifeling reminds us the best and most durable protectors of our rights are actually our own people. Yes, democratic backsliding is scary and dangerous, but not irreversible…especially if we all come together to defeat it.  As always, if you find worth in what we do, please consider SUBSCRIBING to PoliticsGirl Premium. You’ll get this podcast ad free, along with a bunch of other perks, like the rants directly to your inbox and the knowledge that you’re making this kind of highly researched, factual information possible. If that interests you, please go to https://www.politicsgirl.com/premium and subscribe today!! Thank you so much!  xoPG Guest social: https://www.aclu.org/ https://peoplepower.org As always, please RATE and SUBSCRIBE so we can grow the show, open the dialogue, and inspire change moving forward!   All show links here!: https://linktr.ee/politicsgirl   This episode is sponsored by… https://wildgrain.com/politicsgirl https://mudwtr.com code: politicsgirl https://joindeleteme.com/politicsgirl https://Quince.com/politicsgirl

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0:00.0

This government, this Trump administration, has decided that it's going to have ICE enforcement happen anywhere.

0:08.0

That includes hospitals.

0:10.0

That includes schools.

0:11.7

That includes churches and other places of worship.

0:15.0

These are areas that have historically been kind of off limits for ICE enforcement.

0:19.5

You know, people should be able, kids should be

0:21.7

able to go to school without being terrorized. By their own government? Yeah.

0:39.4

Well, it's been the Politics Girl podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it.

0:44.1

Well, it's been a perfectly awful week if you believe in democracy, the rule of law,

0:49.9

international order, and basic human decency. Last Wednesday, an ICE agent shot and killed Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis, and the government was on TV within an hour smearing the victim

0:54.9

and lying about what happened. It's almost a week later, and despite all the evidence to the

0:59.0

contrary, the Trump administration and right-wing media continue to justify the murder.

1:03.9

But Nicole Good is not the only person that ISIS shot. In the last four months, immigration officers

1:08.8

have fired on at least nine people in five states,

1:11.4

including D.C., and all of the individuals targeted were, like Renee, in their car. And in each case,

1:17.2

the officials have claimed they were firing in self-defense, but key aspects of the government's

1:21.6

accounts keep coming into question. So it's starting to feel to me like there's something bigger

1:26.2

going on, that the government is trying to convince us that the truth doesn't matter, that they can call any one of us domestic terrorists and justify our killing, that we shouldn't be protesting, that we shouldn't be getting in their way, that we shouldn't even be filming, that even when we do and our recordings prove they are lying, it won't matter.

1:45.7

Comply or die.

1:50.5

And I think that is unacceptable to most of us who have been raised to use our First Amendment right to protest and speak up.

1:53.3

So to talk to us about what our rights are when we do protest because we absolutely should

1:58.2

not stop doing that no matter what this regime of sociopathic

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