Hey man. Hi Hayden, my little cheeky night cheese.

Ah, that's personalised. I have night cheese. Thank you.

You do, and now you're my night cheese.

Don't like that. Don't like that. I don't like being the little scruncher snack you have before drifting off to sleep.

I've got some big news. You and I were won a Webby. We've won a Webby Award.

Oh, us together won the Webby Award.

Yeah, Best Indy Podcast for Flightless Bird.

Yeah, I always thought we were the best indie podcast, us two together.

Now, I don't know how to do this incredibly hard pivot right now, but today's episode of Flightless Bird, it's a little bit more serious.

We're looking at the story of Everly, who's a New Zealand woman who got snatched by

ice at LAX, which is fucking bizarre and crazy, and I think more people need to know about it.

And it kind of made me think, you know, the news cycle goes on, and I think there's this idea

that ice is kind of done, but of course it's all still ongoing. And I'm curious if over in New Zealand you're kind of

aware of this stuff or if it's kind of completely drifted off the radar. Definitely off the radar.

And it kind of, you kind of get the feeling like it's a bit off the radar in the United States.

You know, they had this secret police and for a while they were just murdering people straight up in the streets

and everyone was like, that's a bit much but now they're just doing a kind of toned down

version of that and everyone's like, oh well that's all right then. They're just kind of abducting

people with green cards in the airport now. That's normal and they're just putting sort of people,

most of whom are brown in cages and that's just what America does. So that's that's normal and they're just putting sort of people most of whom are brown in cages and

that's just what america does so that's that's all right when really you do still have a secret

police operating with impunity within your country in a way that you would probably frown upon

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