"ICE is a colonial police force" w/ Alex Aviña
The Red Nation Podcast
The Red Nation
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🗓️ 21 July 2025
⏱️ 95 minutes
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Summary
TRN Podcast host Nick Estes welcomes back comrade, colleague, and oft-returning guest of the show Alex Aviña to discuss the Trump regime's widening attack on higher education and how it is being waged through a class of neoliberal administrators largely identifying as Democrats.
Alex is the author of Specters of Revolution: Peasant Guerrillas in the Cold War Mexican Countryside
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| 0:00.0 | I'm We are joined today again by a good friend and comrade of mine, colleague, I guess, as what we would call ourselves. |
| 0:38.3 | Alex Avina, who is at the American, I was going to say the American Studies Association, |
| 0:43.7 | Arizona State University, where he's in history. |
| 0:46.8 | How is the field of history these days in times of genocide and war? |
| 0:52.1 | It's not good, Nick. Not good. |
| 0:54.5 | I wish I was in American studies. |
| 0:58.1 | But yeah, things are not going well. |
| 1:00.0 | We can talk about that if you want. |
| 1:01.2 | There's stuff that's been happening, the American Historical Association. |
| 1:04.6 | And I'm actually just ran for a position. |
| 1:07.6 | So working with people like organizations like historians for Palestine. |
| 1:12.8 | But oh, so at the AHA, right? The American history. Yeah. Yeah. The main, yeah, the main |
| 1:18.8 | professional organization for historians, mostly within the U.S., but also outside of. We just had an |
| 1:24.1 | election that voting closed on the 15th, so a couple days ago. |
| 1:29.2 | And there was a slate, several organizations like historians for peace and democracy or democracy, |
| 1:34.8 | I always mess up these names, but historians for Palestine, several organizations put together |
| 1:40.5 | a slate of candidates. And I was put on one of the nomination council positions. |
| 1:47.5 | So we'll see, I don't know when we find out what the electoral results. |
| 1:50.2 | But we had pretty much candidates from president all the way down to nominating council |
| 1:54.7 | because of the shady shenanigans that the HAA leadership has pulled on on historians who want action on Palestine over the last couple years. |
| 2:07.6 | So we'll see what happens. |
| 2:09.6 | Yeah, this is kind of like part of a recent push amongst different |
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