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Origin Story

ICE – How Trump built an American Gestapo

Origin Story

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Society & Culture, History, News, News Commentary

4.7811 Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

What is ICE? Who are these men we see gathered around students and politicians in the US, with their faces covered, wearing unmarked clothing, often throwing people into unmarked cars? Where did this organisation originate? How did it turn into what looks like a militia? And where will its loyalties lie in future if there is a threat to Trump's hold on power? This special edition of Origin Story looks into US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, a body which was once responsible for tracking undocumented immigrants who were a threat to national security, but has now metastasised into a group which seems to target all immigrants and many US citizens. We track its birth under George Bush Jr, its actions under Barack Obama and then its radicalisation and expansion under Donald Trump. Then we peer into the alarming evidence about its behaviour and its part in Trump's broader agenda, before listing the comparisons with Nazi Germany. Everything you need to know about one of modern America's most disturbing developments. Support Origin Story on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/originstorypod Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt. Produced by Simon Williams. Music by Jade Bailey. Art by Jim Parrett. Logo by Mischa Welsh. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Origin Story is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:01.7

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Get Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 available now. Hello, welcome to a summer bonus between season episode of Origin Story.

0:46.4

I'm Dorian Lidski.

0:48.1

And I am I, Enda.

0:49.8

So we've really got into these bonus episodes where while we're working on the next season,

0:54.9

we just get to tell sort of smaller, more specific stories, and they're really varied.

0:59.0

The ones that we've got coming up for you, each one is its own thing, and Ian is going

1:04.2

to kick us off.

1:05.2

The way we're doing this is that one person is very much leading and doing most of the

1:10.0

work, which is nice. And this is one where I really haven't had most of the work, which is nice.

1:12.0

And this is one where I really haven't had to do any work, which is doubly nice.

1:15.7

Ian, what is the subject for today?

1:17.7

It is ice, and not the fun, ice, ice baby kind of ice, nor even the type that you might drink or eat.

1:26.0

It is the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Service in the US.

1:30.6

This is a suggestion by our producer, Simon,

1:33.5

which comes, I think, from just sort of looking at the TV news.

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