ICE, CBP and Coronavirus Response
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 13 April 2020
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Whether it has been travel bans, family separation, or changes to asylum rules, the Trump administration has long been embroiled in controversies over its immigration and detention policy. Those controversies have come amidst surges in migrants and asylum seekers, particularly at the U.S. southern border. The Trump administration's new policies have been legally and technically complex, and that was all before COVID-19.
Mikhaila Fogel sat down with immigration reporters Hamed Aleaziz of Buzzfeed News, Dara Lind of ProPublica, and Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, a lawyer at the American Immigration Council. They discussed how Immigration and Customs Enforcement, as well as Customs and Border Protection, are responding to COVID-19; the changing legal landscape for those agencies before the pandemic; and the challenges faced by migrants, asylum seekers and the U.S. immigration system during coronavirus and beyond.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:29.1 | There have been allegations, lack of soap, hand sanitizer. |
| 0:38.9 | There's been multiple uses of force, you know, the deployment of pepper spray in these |
| 0:44.2 | facilities in response to protests related to coronavirus. |
| 0:50.6 | In some places, even the guards are worried and have incomplete information on who has |
| 0:55.8 | tested positive for coronavirus. |
| 0:58.2 | I spoke with the first attorney to test positive for COVID-19 a few weeks ago. |
| 1:04.7 | And when I spoke with him, he told me that he had been released at that point. |
| 1:09.1 | He told me that he was convinced that others at the jail he was being held out in New |
| 1:14.0 | Jersey would come down with the illness. |
| 1:18.0 | I'm Mikhail Afogal and this is the LawFair podcast April 13, 2020. |
| 1:25.7 | Travel bans, family separation and changes to asylum roles. |
| 1:30.6 | The Trump administration has long been embroiled in controversies over its immigration and |
| 1:35.1 | detention policies. |
| 1:37.4 | Those controversies have come amidst surges in migrants and asylum seekers, particularly |
| 1:42.4 | at the U.S. Southern border. |
| 1:44.4 | The Trump administration's new policies have been legally and technically complex. |
| 1:49.4 | And that was all before COVID-19. |
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