In Minneapolis and across the country, people are showing up to watch ice operations.

They're filming, documenting, and alerting neighbors. Supporters say they're exercising their

First Amendment rights. Federal officials say they're interfering and in some cases

even calls them domestic terrorists. So where is the legal line? What actually happens when observers

are charged and what risks do people take by showing up? I'm Jen White. You're listening to the

1A podcast. Our guests join us to take a look at those questions right after this. Stay with us.

Let's dive into the conversation with our panel. Quinta Jurecic is a staff writer at the Atlantic focusing on politics, democracy, and the rule of law. Quinta, thanks for being here.

Thank you for having me. From Minneapolis, we have Will Stancel.

He's a civil rights attorney and policy researcher. His substack, Stancil culture, is about

politics and democratic strategy. Well, welcome back to the program.

Thanks for having me. And also with us, Amelia Gonzalez-Avalos, executive director of Uninos,

Minnesota. That's a group that trains people to be observers,

people who respond to observe federal immigration enforcement activities

through rapid response networks.

Amelia, it's great to have you.

Thank you for having me.

Quinta, you're following legal cases against eyes observers nationwide.

What are people being charged with and on what grounds?

The vast majority of the cases against people who are observing ICE and CBP activity protesting,

even people who are actually the targets of that enforcement are under one single statute.

So I have it right in front of me, and it prohibits, and I'm just going to read

here from the language, forcibly assaulting, resisting, opposing, impeding, intimidating, or

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