Ibram X. Kendi wants to redefine racism
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox Media Podcast Network
4.5 • 11.1K Ratings
🗓️ 7 October 2019
⏱️ 86 minutes
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| 0:37.0 | Generally we have defined racist policies and racist people based on the perpetrator and the intent as opposed to the victim and the outcome. |
| 0:58.0 | Hello, welcome to the Grancho and the Vox Media Podcast Network. |
| 1:05.0 | My guest today is Ibram X Kendi, who is the founding director of the Anti-Racist Research and Policy Center at American University. |
| 1:12.0 | He is the author of the new book, How to Be an Anti-Racist. |
| 1:15.0 | He is the author of the previous book, which is a remarkable book that I read and had a big influence on me, called Stamp from Beginning, |
| 1:21.0 | which won the National Book Award. He was the youngest ever National Book Award winner, which is hell of a thing to be able to put out of bio. |
| 1:27.0 | Kendi is doing something I think interesting and important and also very challenging. |
| 1:32.0 | He is trying to create a framework and a really redefinition of racism, of anti-racism, of how we think about those ideas, what they mean, what they mean when they play out in our lives. |
| 1:42.0 | This conversation in his project are similar to the Kettman conversation I had some months ago, |
| 1:47.0 | whereas just as Kettman is trying to see misogyny as a social system women face, not something in the hearts of men, |
| 1:55.0 | Kendi is trying to understand racism as a social and institutional and policy system that people face, not something that is in the hearts of racists. |
| 2:03.0 | And that means taking a word that has as much negative charges really any in American life and applying it much more expansively, much more often to many more people, including himself. |
| 2:15.0 | Understanding racist as something that we all kind of shift in and out of as we are advocating or believing in things that would lead to more racial difference that would blame people more for racial difference versus closing it versus moving towards equality. |
| 2:28.0 | And so this is challenging. |
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