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🗓️ 27 January 2020
⏱️ 31 minutes
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In this episode we cover that rather bothersome component of your AGMA... toxic alcohols. Who is high risk, when and how to screen, and of course a tight approach to treatment. Don't forget... always call your local friendly toxicologist.
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0:00.0 | Welcome back to the Internet Book of Critical Care. |
0:07.7 | I'm here with Adam Thomas and we're going to talk about ethylene glycol and methanol |
0:10.9 | poisoning. |
0:11.9 | Just because we haven't had a controversial post there in a while, we're going to start |
0:14.6 | off with the basics that everybody can accept and then maybe let's talk about a new way |
0:19.1 | to conceive of toxic alcohols and diverge a bit |
0:22.6 | from the classic double gap approach. So today we'll punchline the biochemistry. We'll move into |
0:27.6 | diagnostic strategy and then of course we'll cover treatment with blockade and potential |
0:32.7 | dialysis for elimination. So Josh biochemistry hit me up with the punchline that is a toxic alcohol |
0:38.5 | is only toxic if it has an acid that causes badness. Exactly. So methanol and ethylene |
0:44.4 | glycol can cause some toxicity. They can cause, you know, CNS suppression kind of similar to |
0:48.8 | standard ethanol. But by themselves, they're not that toxic. The real problem is when they get |
0:52.6 | converted into things like formic acid from ethanol and glycolic acid from ethylene glycol that cause all sorts of |
0:57.7 | more severe toxicities. So this creates kind of like this biphasic toxicity where initially |
1:02.1 | people may show up with methanol or ethylene glycol in their system and they're going to |
1:05.9 | appear inebriated and they may have elevated levels of these so-called parent alcohols. And then over time, those are going to get metabolized into the toxic formic acid and |
1:15.1 | glycolic acid metabolites. |
1:16.6 | And that's going to essentially shift the toxicity in clinical picture. |
1:19.8 | So we'll all have a parent molecule. |
1:21.8 | We all go to an aldehyde, and we go to an acid. |
1:24.2 | And hopefully we start eliminating things. |
1:26.2 | Exactly. |
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