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The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

IBCC Episode 3 - Approach to the GI Bleed

The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

Adam Thomas

Foam, Medicine, Health & Fitness, Science, Criticalcare, Medicaleducation

5714 Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2018

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In this episode we summarize the approach to the patient with a bleeding GI tract. Whether its upper, lower, or anything in between... we've got you covered.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to another edition of the IBCC podcast. I'm here with Adam Thomas. We're going to talk today about GI bleeding.

0:09.0

Josh, I got to say I'm really excited for this one as a learner and an emerge talk because this pathway that you give us is really clear.

0:16.0

Because this spectrum of GI bleeding I think is sometimes all over the map from kind of that patient who's totally stable looking at you eating their turkey sandwich and has a low hemoglobin

0:25.9

to that exorcist level mass of upper GI bleed.

0:28.8

Let's go through this podcast, differential diagnosis of a GI bleed and walk our learners

0:33.2

through all that evidence-based approach you got for us today.

0:36.2

So I think usually GI bleed isn't a huge diagnostic conundrum, but there are a few pitfalls

0:41.1

to be aware of. The first one would be posterior epistaxis. People can have massive posterior

0:46.2

epistaxis, and sometimes that can manifest as a GI bleed. You know, patients are swallowing

0:50.2

the blood. They can have dark terry stools, and it can really look like a massive GI bleed.

0:54.3

So that's something to be aware of. And the treatment for that is obviously totally different.

0:57.6

So that's not something you'd want to miss. And the other thing would be people can have bloody diarrhea,

1:01.4

if they have colitis or mesenteric aschemia. And those patients technically do have a GI bleed,

1:06.9

but the bleeding is not the primary problem. So that's something else you'd want to differentiate

1:10.9

out. And we're definitely not going to talk about that today. We start with our differential

1:14.2

diagnosis, and then we go into risk stratification and assessment. And here are the major

1:18.5

topics we're going to cover are hemoglobin, hemodynamics, coagulation, signs of bleeding, cirrhosis,

1:24.3

and then overall fitness.

1:34.5

So as far as hemoglobin and coagulation, I think people generally get this backwards.

1:39.0

So the lower the hemoglobin is, the more comfortable I am, and that's going to sound counterintuitive.

1:39.8

But if a patient walks into the emergency room with a hemoglobin of four, and they're not dead,

1:47.1

that means that they've been slowly bleeding for a while.

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