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The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

IBCC Episode 113 - Sodium Channel Blocker Toxicity

The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

Adam Thomas

Foam, Medicine, Health & Fitness, Science, Criticalcare, Medicaleducation

5714 Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In this episode we cover one of the hallmarks of the poisoned patient, that ECG tracing with a widening QRS. After reading the post, come listen for the nuances around all things hypertonic bicarb for sodium delivery, preventing acidosis with isotonic bicarb, how those sneaky-brilliant toxicologists will use lidocaine, and when to push the "panic button" on intra-lipid.

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0:00.0

All right, so welcome back to the Internet Book of Critical Care podcast. I'm here with

0:09.0

Adam Thomas, and we're going to talk about sodium channel blockade and tricyclic antidepressant

0:13.3

overdose. Yay! EKGs and talks! Yay! Josh, this is the fun one. We all get jacked up about TCAAs,

0:20.4

but it's few and far between

0:21.7

that I think we see TCA's now, but the sodium channel blockade is what we're really

0:25.6

concerned about with our pump no likey-likey the drugs that we took, right? Yeah, this is a challenging

0:31.3

topic to talk about because probably the most common form of sodium channel blocker intoxication

0:36.3

is tricyclic antidepressants.

0:38.4

So, like, most of what we know about sodium channel blockers is based on tricyclic

0:42.0

antidepressants.

0:42.7

But I think overall as a whole, it's better in some ways for us to think about this as

0:47.0

sodium channel blockers rather than tricyclics, because that prepares us for the diagnosis

0:50.9

and management of other various sodium channel blockers, which we may encounter.

0:54.7

But you put the best quote in there is that TCA's are the original gangster of sodium

0:59.0

channel blockade, right?

1:00.0

Yeah, I know. They taught us the fundamentals. And when you start looking into how other

1:04.0

sodium channel blocking drugs are treated, it's all based on tricyclic intoxication.

1:08.5

That's the basis. That's the rationale. That's the historical analysis.

1:12.8

Let's get into then the overview.

1:14.5

And then we'll talk about pathophys and more importantly, what does the EKG tell us and how do we manage it?

1:20.8

So let's start at the 360 view, big picture here.

1:24.6

What is going on with these agents and how do I see it on the EKG?

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