I love Danny Paul coming subscribe to the podcast baby. I love Danny Paul. I listen on the

top subscribe with me. It is recording. Oh, welcome to the day. I can't say. What? You

interrupt me. You've been starting. Yes, I can start again. Welcome to the Deling

Pod with me, James Deling Paul. And I know I always say I'm excited about this

quick special guest, but I really am. It's an old, old, very old, actually. I mean,

like almost just like Methuselah, an old friend back after a long time in

polymer. Welcome back to the Deling Pod. Have you been? Well, I know you haven't

been well. Well, thank you for having me, James. Well, you know, I haven't been

100% that's why I've been out of action for a while. Yeah, exactly, but are you, I mean,

seriously, are you recovered now? Because I, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't sure that

I was ever going to see you again. Well, I'm breathing out carbon dioxide. My bum is

pointing to the ground. And for the rest of my life, I will still have a fairly dangerous

cancer, which is being managed. Right. So that's the good news. The even better news

is that I'm still getting hated by those on the left. Yeah, yeah, although you know

what in I've since we last, since we last had a podcast together, which must have

been, must be about, it was in the days when I used to do them face to face. And we met

in a hotel near Marla, Marla, and it's been five years ago, even eight years ago. Yeah,

five or eight years ago. Yeah, yes. But since then, I've, I've, I've had a, had a sort

of an awakening you might, you might put it. I mean, you and I have been fighting the climate

wars for a very long time. And I don't think any more, well, even when I wrote water

mountains, I think I kind of argued this, it's not really about the left and the right.

It's about us versus them about us versus the bastards that, you know, and that includes

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