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Ian McEwan’s latest novel ‘What We Can Know’ is science fiction without the science

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4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

At 77, the Booker Prize-winning British novelist Ian McEwan shows no signs of slowing down. His new novel, What We Can Know, is set in Great Britain in the 22nd century – a country now partly underwater as a result of global warming. In today’s episode, McEwan speaks with NPR’s Scott Simon about the book’s plot – it tells of a search for a lost poem that was written in our own times – and notes that he is less interested in the future of science than that of the humanities, love and daily life.


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0:00.0

Hey there, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Chloe Valtman filling in for Andrew Limbong this week.

0:07.5

Ian McEwen has a new novel out. It's his 19th, and it has been reminding commentators of the works the

0:12.9

novelist wrote in his early years, like the Cement Garden and his short story collection,

0:17.2

First Love Last Writes, books that earned the now 77-year-old author, the nickname

0:21.9

Ian Macarber. What we can know tells a planet Earth in the 22nd century. It's a world decimated

0:28.5

by climate change, populist leaders and unchecked artificial intelligence, and yet somehow

0:34.3

it's still turning. As McEwen tells Scott Simon in this interview, life goes on.

0:40.3

Be warned, reading the novel might elicit pangs of weird nostalgia for the times we're currently living in.

0:46.6

Here's Scott.

0:48.2

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0:55.7

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1:01.2

with Jonathan Goldstein, available wherever you get podcasts.

1:05.6

Ian McEwen's new novel may make you wonder, what really lasts? It's set in Britain a century from now an

1:12.7

island state that has become an archipelago, partly submerged by rising seas. Tom Metcalf is an academic

1:20.4

who's devoted his working life to finding a poem, a corona for Vivian, that the great poet Francis

1:26.2

Blundie composed and read for his wife at a dinner in

1:29.2

2014. But the poem has never been found. What did it say? What did it say of them? How did it

1:37.0

disappear? What we can know was the 19th novel from Ian McEwen, the Booker Prize winning author

1:43.3

of Amsterdam and other acclaimed works, including Atonement.

1:47.9

You joins us now from London.

1:49.3

Thank you so much for being with us.

1:51.2

Well, great pleasure.

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