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This is a global player original podcast. The fact that it takes an ITV drama and suddenly, having

been told their entire campaigning lives, this is very difficult. You'll have to go in front of a judge.

This is very, very expensive. Oh, this morning it isn't. Tomorrow we'll pass legislation and you're

all exonerated. I mean, it is absolutely fatuous for this government to claim, hey, we're really

acting now. Did nothing. Did nothing the whole time. Sorry. That is you're not. Sorry. That is demonstrably true.

That was the unmistakable voice of Ian Hisslop, assailing a government minister earlier this year on the post office scandal.

The minister clearly wanting to disappear into his shoes with every sustained blow.

It's not just the tone of the voice that's distinctive.

It is also its trademark indignation. It's not just the tone of the voice that's distinctive. It is also its trademark

indignation, its caustic fury, undimmed after all these years as both the editor of Private

Eye since 1986, making him the longest serving editor in British journalism, and of course

since 1990 as one half of the permanent fixtures on Have I Got News for You. It's about

to enter its 67th season with the first episode out on Friday, given his sheer longevity

and his unique perch in British journalism, sort of entirely in, in some ways it doesn't get

more establishment than private eye or the firmament of news

for you, but yet also on the outside too. We thought with an election nearing and freedom

of speech once again in their headlines, we would bring you this extended conversation with

the man himself on journalism, politics, what's changed, what's not, what is the role of satire

in a political world, which so often seems

beyond parody. It's Lewis here. Welcome to the newsagents. The newsagents.

Well, Ian Hislop is joining us in the newsagents bunker. Right now, he's got his massive

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