Ian Bremmer on Putin, Xi…and Elon Musk

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

4.2 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Kara and Nayeema are taping from Europe this week, so today we decided to tackle all things international with Ian Bremmer, the president of Eurasia Group and the man Fortune 500 CEOs seek out to make sense of political risk and exposure. In the interview, Ian projects the Top Risks for 2023 -- from a rogue Russia to a global energy crunch. He breaks down recent developments in Brazil, Ukraine, Iran and China. We double click on the risk of disinformation, divisive social media and other “weapons of mass disruption” rampant in a digital age. And Bremmer makes a bold comparison between CEOs in Silicon Valley and autocrats abroad saying: “Xi Jinping increasingly rules China the way that Putin rules Russia, the way that the Supreme Leader rules Iran, the way that Mark and Elon rule their companies.” You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter at @karaswisher and @nayeema. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:42.0	Hi everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:45.0	This is GPS with Farid Zakaria with far less Davos, in fact none at all.
0:51.0	Just kidding, this is on with Kara Swisher and I'm Kara Swisher.
0:55.0	And I'm Neymaraza. Kara, you said you didn't get invited to Davos.
0:58.0	I never get invited to Davos. Is that shame?
1:00.0	No, I think it's actually good that I know that I went once as a wife of and I hated it.
1:04.0	Oh, as I you know it's a lot of rich people looking each other up and down,
1:08.0	except in the snow and I hate cold weather. It's just awful.
1:11.0	It's like a lot of wine parties by VCs and I just like it's so ridiculous.
1:15.0	Well we should ask our guests today about this the umbrella because he is headed.
1:18.0	He loves his Davos. And we are international right now. We're in Germany right now and we're headed to London.
1:23.0	And that's what we're doing. So we're here. We're being international-ish.
1:27.0	We have spent some time at DLD in Germany. We're headed to London just in a little bit.
1:33.0	You were real pleasure to fly with Kara.
1:36.0	Was I?
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