Welcome to The Investigation. I'm Chris Vlasto, senior executive producer here at ABC News. I'm joined by my colleague John Santucci in Washington. And we're joined by a special guest, Greg Craig, former special counsel to President Clinton, who led Mr. Clinton's defense during his

Senate trial. Mr. Craig was also the White House counsel during President Obama's administration.

Recently, Greg Craig himself made headlines, where he was acquitted on federal charges of lying

to the Justice Department. We tried to ask him questions about his own case, and he refused to answer.

But we still wanted to get his insights on the Clinton impeachment and how it compares to the

impeachment inquiry going on today.

So Mr. Craig, what did you do right 20 years ago in the impeachment proceedings?

Well, I think the verdict speaks for itself. In a Republican-dominated Senate,

55 votes were for acquittal out of 100. Sixty-seven were required for conviction and removal of

office. And so I think not only did we maintain President Clinton's innocence

and gain the votes of all the Democrats in the Senate,

but we picked up 10 votes from the Republicans.

So I think there are many lessons to be learned from that impeachment.

One of the lessons is that it is possible in a divided country to impeach a president,

but to remove a president in a divided country is not possible.

It requires bipartisanship.

It requires a unity, a consensus that the president should be removed.

And absent that kind of consensus, it's not going to happen. He will not be removed.

But let me ask you, you started the Clinton defense pre-impeachment.

The difference that I, and we've spoken to others on this podcast, we obviously spoke to Jane Sherburn, we've been spoken to David Bossy, and what they all commented about is during that time, President Clinton kind of walled himself off from the actual investigation into him and went off and tried to do the business of the country and had a whole

team with you and others and Mark Bobiani and et cetera, all kind of working on the defense.

In this case, with Donald Trump, he seems to be the lead attorney on his own defense.

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