I Will Not Leave Jesus — But I’m Done with the Church

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John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

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🗓️ 16 December 2015

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

“I’m done with the organized church, but I still love Jesus.” If you walk away from the church, you walk away from Jesus.

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0:00.0	Today's clip comes not from a sermon, but from an interview with John Piper, and it's
0:09.9	an interview that was led by Pastor Norm Funk at Westside Church in Vancouver, British
0:15.2	Columbia.
0:16.5	We jump into their conversation as they were just talking about the local church and
0:20.2	leaders who have failed in the local church.
0:23.4	So what do you say to someone who says, I'll never leave Jesus, but I've seen the failure
0:27.3	of a pastor, and I'm done with the local church.
0:30.7	Here's a very short clip from that conversation.
0:34.2	Specific to that, they go, Pastor John, I'm not walking away from Jesus, but I'm done with
0:38.7	the church.
0:39.7	I can't trust a leadership, help this guy in high esteem.
0:45.6	So I'm not going to walk away from Jesus, but I'm done with the organized aspect of
0:49.5	church work.
0:50.5	If you do that, you're walking away from Jesus.
0:52.6	Here's the reason.
0:54.3	To say that I love Jesus, but I don't submit to his word is a lie.
1:01.1	He who loves me will keep my words.
1:05.2	Jesus founded the church.
1:07.2	I didn't.
1:08.2	Paul didn't.
1:10.4	Jesus founded the church.
1:12.1	He established apostles to be, according to Ephesians 2.20, the foundation of the church.
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