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Deadline: White House

“I will not be cowed by this president”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Msnbc, News, Ms Now, Versant, Politics, Government, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Daily News, Washington Dc

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Lawmakers – including one of Trump’s targets – join Nicolle Wallace to discuss Donald Trump’s accusation that half a dozen Democratic lawmakers engaged in sedition, “punishable by death.” Later, Nicolle speaks with Ken Burns about his new series on the American Revolution.

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0:00.0

Yeah, I have received a lot of threats.

0:05.9

I'm not going to go into my family and what the security measures are going to look like.

0:10.8

That's something that we're going to do just with me and my staff.

0:15.8

But listen, I'm a paratrooper.

0:17.8

I'm used to being behind enemy lines and being surrounded. This is exactly where I want to be.

0:22.2

And to lead in this moment right now requires, it requires that we say what needs to be said,

0:28.7

that we be bold and we be unafraid, right? Fear is contagious, but so is courage. So I will not be

0:35.9

cowed by this president. Wow. Hi again, everybody. It's five o'clock in New York. You heard him.

0:42.3

Quote, fear is contagious, but so is courage. That was Congressman Jason Crowe, and he isn't the only Democrat among the six who participated in making a video that simply encouraged active duty service members to refuse any illegal

0:55.4

order to receive threats since being targeted by Donald Trump.

0:59.7

Here's another one of those six, Senator Alyssa Slotkin, talking about what she's had to deal with

1:04.1

since Trump suggested sedition.

1:07.4

It was instantaneous.

1:08.9

I mean, hundreds, if not at this point, thousands of calls, emails,

1:15.1

texts, obviously online postings. Capital Police came to us and said, you know, we're going

1:21.0

to put you on 24-7 security. We've got law enforcement out in front of my house. I mean, it is — it changes things immediately.

1:30.0

And leadership climate is set from the top.

1:32.8

And if president is saying you should be hanged, then we shouldn't be surprised when folks

1:38.3

on the ground are going to follow suit and say even worse.

1:41.4

I swear we start the hour with Democratic Congressman Chris Deluzio of Pennsylvania.

1:47.4

Congressman Delizio is one of the six Democratic lawmakers accused by President Donald Trump,

1:52.6

the president of the United States, of, quote, seditious behavior punishable by death, end quote.

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