Hello?

Hey, what's up, man?

What's up?

This Lyle?

Yeah, it says here that your name is Dubius?

Yeah.

What's up, Dubius?

Oh, not much, just, uh, hanging out after a long day of work.

What's happening with you?

Um, I'm 30 years old and like I started being a judge of the when I was 16 I'm not anymore I have a family and stuff now and it was just sometimes it's hard for me to accept

the transition that has been made in my life, like the calmness of it, the, I don't have to feel like somebody's going to come around the corner and mess me up or something like that.

I don't have to feel like I'm going to be pulled over and get sent to prison immediately.

Ten years ago, I was still in prison and then

now I'm a father of three and I don't do much anymore.

Just working home and that's it.

Uh, how long were you in the game for?

Um, let's see, used to sell drugs for my dad when I was a kid, but whenever I started doing it myself I was 16 years old and I did it steadily until I was 19 until I went to prison.

You sold them for your dad?

Yes, my dad used to sell booger sugar and he thought that it was easier for people to get a bag from a kid than it would be from an adult that way it was less

conspicuous I guess for him so he would

send me in the room and lay money out and go this is what the money that you'll get will look like.

If it doesn't look like any of these, don't give them the bag and come back inside.

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