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Hello, dear listener and welcome to owning it the anxiety podcast where we come together to better understand and manage our experience of anxiety. This week, the last episode before

Christmas, I am joined by Stanford psychiatrist Dr. David Spiegel to talk about hypnosis and

self-hypnosis. Now before you switch off and think, what a load of poppycock, I was and always

have been cynical about this too, but David is very much from the science and research school

of thought, and he utterly dispels my distrust of hypnosis here, educating me and hopefully you too

and what an effective,

scientifically backed intervention it can be to help us through anxiety, especially when it comes

to things like phobias. I love talking to them and I hope you find it interesting too and helpful.

I'll be back in the new year but in the meantime please do hop over to my substack and subscribe

for more content. You'll find me at carolineforn.substack.com

forward slash subscribe. And in my show notes, I have a handy little discount code for Dr.

Spiegel's self-hypnosis app, which is called Reverie.

Dr. David Spiegel, Stanford psychiatrist with so much experience, I don't have enough time in like 45 minutes to talk to you about all of your wealth of information.

But thank you so much for joining me on owning it the anxiety podcast.

You're most welcome. Glad to be here.

We are talking today about hypnosis, specifically in relation to anxiety. And I'm going to be real honest with you from the gecko and say, when I got your email, because I get a lot of emails about different therapies and different things, I did think, oh, is this another thing that I'm going to fall for and think all I have to do is one session and I'll be cured forever because I've fallen down

that rabbit hole before and I'm so conscious with my listeners of always bringing them

something that's backed by research and I couldn't get over the amount of clinical research

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